Earles Fork Handling

mb wrote:

> You're taking a Guzzi heads with you?

No, yes, maybe.


> Anyway, usual suspects are; tyres, tyre pressures, swing arm bearings,
> fucked shocks/bushes or just too much weight too far back.

I've checked the obvious but in reality I think it's the weight lifting
the front up enough to cause the shimmy. I'll see if I can get an OE
damper.

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"sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
<xn0fduac66v74z004@news.individual.net>:

>deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>
>> > However, If I put a heavy load (say two Moto Guzzi barrels and heads)
>> > on the rear rack the handlebars shake to the point of losing control
>> > if I take my hands off the bars.
>
>> > What could be the cause?
>>
>> Dunno. I've got a steering damper you're welcome to. Bought it for the
>> sidecar but it seems unnecessary after I've set it up.
>
>What type of steering damper?

Kawasaki design.

>Hydraulic would be impossible (or at least very difficult) to fit. The
>MZ dampers are friction type. I have one for the later TS but it's
>missing an important bit.

It's a hydraulic one; fits to the fork and then a frame tube or similar.
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deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> > Hydraulic would be impossible (or at least very difficult) to fit.
> > The MZ dampers are friction type. I have one for the later TS but
> > it's missing an important bit.
>
> It's a hydraulic one; fits to the fork and then a frame tube or similar.

Could be tricky:
http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/mzes...tos/photo3.jpg

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller"
<sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> saying something like:

>
>I've checked the obvious but in reality I think it's the weight lifting
>the front up enough to cause the shimmy.

By the time you've fully loaded it for the Winter Madness, you might
find it doesn't bother at all. My TS250, with full loading of rear box,
throwevers and tank bag would handle fine, but I usually made sure the
heavy stuff was within the wheelbase.
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On Nov 18, 10:20 am, "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a 1971 MZ ES Trophy. Marvellously styled earles fork'd 250 two
> stroke [1].
>
> It handles very nicely; certainly a lot better than the C15 and
> Superdream I had.
>
> However, If I put a heavy load (say two Moto Guzzi barrels and heads) on
> the rear rack the handlebars shake to the point of losing control if I
> take my hands off the bars.
...
> What could be the cause?
>
> [1] For those who haven't seen it:
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/mzes250/

Is that a partially worn Michelin M38 I see before me? IMO that's
likely to be a contributory factor. I don't know why, maybe some
mismatch with the profile/tread/wear pattern and ES250 geometry, mine
does the same but strangely not on knobblies. You could try varying
the pressures, setting the shocks on hard or something, I'd be
interested to know if you cure it.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:20:38 -0000, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
<eastREMOVEkent@gmail.com> wrote:

>sweller wrote:
>>
>> [1] For those who haven't seen it:
>> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/mzes250/
>
>Oh bless it.

I think the cutest part is the D-lock on the front wheel. I mean,
wildly optimistic or what?

>Do people vomit on it much?

I certainly looks like they have...

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Ace wrote:

> > Oh bless it.
>
> I think the cutest part is the D-lock on the front wheel. I mean,
> wildly optimistic or what?

Stops the little bastards from a few doors up wheeling it off down the
road. Which they did once. It is now, thanks to darsy, lashed to the
front of the house.


> > Do people vomit on it much?
>
> I certainly looks like they have...

Not so oddly biker types turn their noses up at it. Girls, however,
specifically Brighton type girls seem to like it and will initiate
conversations about it. I've even scored on the basis of that bike so I
reckon it's a winner.

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sweller wrote:

>
> Not so oddly biker types turn their noses up at it. Girls, however,
> specifically Brighton type girls seem to like it and will initiate
> conversations about it. I've even scored on the basis of that bike
> so I reckon it's a winner.

Um, is it for sale?

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On or around Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:20:26 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around 18 Nov 2007 10:20:04 GMT, "sweller"
>> <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> I have a 1971 MZ ES Trophy. Marvellously styled earles fork'd 250
>>> two stroke [1].
>>
>> WTF are you smoking?
>
>Brighton, Hove: it's a nold two-stroke.

nono, that's "smoking out".
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On Nov 18, 10:35 am, Steve <stevelou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/mzes250/
>
> I've always fancied one of those

you sick fucker.

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