Fried my flasher unit.

The 1157 in my left front blinker burned out so that the running light
filament fell onto the blinker unit. This shorted it out so that the
blinkers stayed on and burned out the flasher unit.

F**K! Like a damned $65 fuse.

Anyway, I've heard that there's an aftermarket unit that's cheaper and
works just as well. Does anybody know who makes it?

TIA

--
John Corliss BS206

John Corliss wrote:
> The 1157 in my left front blinker burned out so that the running light
> filament fell onto the blinker unit. This shorted it out so that the
> blinkers stayed on and burned out the flasher unit.
>
> F**K! Like a damned $65 fuse.
>
> Anyway, I've heard that there's an aftermarket unit that's cheaper and
> works just as well. Does anybody know who makes it?
>
> TIA

Never mind. The aftermarket unit I was thinking of is from Badlands:

http://www.badlandsmotorcycleproduct...LECTRONICS.htm

However, I've ordered a stock replacement unit.

--
John Corliss BS206

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:13aiiedq8b8gade@corp.supernews.com...
> John Corliss wrote:
> > The 1157 in my left front blinker burned out so that the running light
> > filament fell onto the blinker unit. This shorted it out so that the
> > blinkers stayed on and burned out the flasher unit.
> >
> > F**K! Like a damned $65 fuse.
> >
> > Anyway, I've heard that there's an aftermarket unit that's cheaper and
> > works just as well. Does anybody know who makes it?
> >
> > TIA
>
> Never mind. The aftermarket unit I was thinking of is from Badlands:
>
> http://www.badlandsmotorcycleproduct...LECTRONICS.htm
>
> However, I've ordered a stock replacement unit.
>
> --
> John Corliss BS206

Took a pass on the chance to customize Eh?

I believe that is the attitude I will take when "stock" items fail, a chance
to customize. Hard to talk myself into spending hundreds of dollars to
replace something that is working well just for a different look but with
the cost of "stock" so high it is just a few dollars more to get something
that looks a bit different.

grdøg wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>
>>> The 1157 in my left front blinker burned out so that the running light
>>> filament fell onto the blinker unit. This shorted it out so that the
>>> blinkers stayed on and burned out the flasher unit.
>>>
>>> F**K! Like a damned $65 fuse.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I've heard that there's an aftermarket unit that's cheaper and
>>> works just as well. Does anybody know who makes it?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Never mind. The aftermarket unit I was thinking of is from Badlands:
>>
>> http://www.badlandsmotorcycleproduct...LECTRONICS.htm
>>
>> However, I've ordered a stock replacement unit.
>
> Took a pass on the chance to customize Eh?
>
> I believe that is the attitude I will take when "stock" items fail, a chance
> to customize. Hard to talk myself into spending hundreds of dollars to
> replace something that is working well just for a different look but with
> the cost of "stock" so high it is just a few dollars more to get something
> that looks a bit different.

Actually, I was trying to save money because I incorrectly thought the
aftermarket version would be cheaper. The stock unit is around $60+, the
Badlands unit I was considering is $75. However, that Badlands unit is
for a Harley. The unit they have for a Victory is for one with no
self-canceling blinkers AND they have no price listed for that unit (I
emailed them and haven't gotten a reply yet.)

As for appearance, there is little difference and besides, the unit is
concealed under the right side cover anyway.

Finally, the stock unit takes about 10 minutes at most to replace and
the aftermarket one would require removal of the stock wiring plug and
fudging the wires into place somehow.

Nope, it was pretty much an open and shut case.

As for customizing this bike, about the only thing I'd like to do is to
replace the rear blinker lenses with red ones and maybe at some point
put on handlebars with more rise and pullback.

That, and repair all the minor scrapes that the previous owner did to
the bike when she wrecked it.

--
John Corliss BS206

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:13amce7c94qso71@corp.supernews.com...
> grdøg wrote:
> > John Corliss wrote:
> >> John Corliss wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The 1157 in my left front blinker burned out so that the running light
> >>> filament fell onto the blinker unit. This shorted it out so that the
> >>> blinkers stayed on and burned out the flasher unit.
> >>>
> >>> F**K! Like a damned $65 fuse.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, I've heard that there's an aftermarket unit that's cheaper and
> >>> works just as well. Does anybody know who makes it?
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>
> >> Never mind. The aftermarket unit I was thinking of is from Badlands:
> >>
> >> http://www.badlandsmotorcycleproduct...LECTRONICS.htm
> >>
> >> However, I've ordered a stock replacement unit.
> >
> > Took a pass on the chance to customize Eh?
> >
> > I believe that is the attitude I will take when "stock" items fail, a
chance
> > to customize. Hard to talk myself into spending hundreds of dollars to
> > replace something that is working well just for a different look but
with
> > the cost of "stock" so high it is just a few dollars more to get
something
> > that looks a bit different.
>
> Actually, I was trying to save money because I incorrectly thought the
> aftermarket version would be cheaper. The stock unit is around $60+, the
> Badlands unit I was considering is $75. However, that Badlands unit is
> for a Harley. The unit they have for a Victory is for one with no
> self-canceling blinkers AND they have no price listed for that unit (I
> emailed them and haven't gotten a reply yet.)
>
> As for appearance, there is little difference and besides, the unit is
> concealed under the right side cover anyway.
>
> Finally, the stock unit takes about 10 minutes at most to replace and
> the aftermarket one would require removal of the stock wiring plug and
> fudging the wires into place somehow.
>
> Nope, it was pretty much an open and shut case.
>
> As for customizing this bike, about the only thing I'd like to do is to
> replace the rear blinker lenses with red ones and maybe at some point
> put on handlebars with more rise and pullback.
>
> That, and repair all the minor scrapes that the previous owner did to
> the bike when she wrecked it.
>
> --
> John Corliss BS206

I didn't figure that an after market would be easier/cheaper, just that it
would allow me to tell stories of how I spent $150 for these cool looking
do/dads instead of $100 for the same thing, in my mind a much better telling
than I spent $150 to replace something that worked perfectly fine.

The stock KP flashers look like a couple of easter eggs stuck to either side
of the fenders. There are some LED after markets that look better but need
additional wiring to make up for the change in voltage/current draw of
LED's. So my choices would be close to the example of paying 50% more for
the aftermarket, but that's it pay a buck to get the same thing or a buck
and a half for something you like better.

Not likely to buy the after markets as long as the stock ones work but if I
need to replace, I am then willing to pay the extra half to get something I
think is better.

The same could be said for most replacements, tires, pipes,what ever else
needs to get replaced.

At $60+ for stock your stories will be how it sucks that it cost you that
much to fix something that wasn't your fault, an unlucky bad bulb. If you
had seen something that you liked better and it cost $30 more your story
changes to how for only $30 more you got something you liked. It still cost
you, it is just a better story.

grdøg wrote:
> (big snip)
>
> I didn't figure that an after market would be easier/cheaper, just that it
> would allow me to tell stories of how I spent $150 for these cool looking
> do/dads instead of $100 for the same thing, in my mind a much better telling
> than I spent $150 to replace something that worked perfectly fine.
>
> The stock KP flashers look like a couple of easter eggs stuck to either side
> of the fenders. There are some LED after markets that look better but need
> additional wiring to make up for the change in voltage/current draw of
> LED's. So my choices would be close to the example of paying 50% more for
> the aftermarket, but that's it pay a buck to get the same thing or a buck
> and a half for something you like better.
>
> Not likely to buy the after markets as long as the stock ones work but if I
> need to replace, I am then willing to pay the extra half to get something I
> think is better.
>
> The same could be said for most replacements, tires, pipes,what ever else
> needs to get replaced.
>
> At $60+ for stock your stories will be how it sucks that it cost you that
> much to fix something that wasn't your fault, an unlucky bad bulb. If you
> had seen something that you liked better and it cost $30 more your story
> changes to how for only $30 more you got something you liked. It still cost
> you, it is just a better story.

Heh. I'm a low bucks rider and always have been.

As for what started the problem in the first place, the easy fix for it
would be to eschew front running lights altogether OR to use two
separate bulbs somehow, one for a running light and the other for a blinker.

A retired trucker friend of mine told me that the problem I had is real
common with long haul trucks and that this is why so many of them use
LEDs nowadays.

--
John Corliss BS206

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:13arikptfbifh6d@corp.supernews.com...
> grdøg wrote:
> > (big snip)
> >
> > I didn't figure that an after market would be easier/cheaper, just that
it
> > would allow me to tell stories of how I spent $150 for these cool
looking
> > do/dads instead of $100 for the same thing, in my mind a much better
telling
> > than I spent $150 to replace something that worked perfectly fine.
> >
> > The stock KP flashers look like a couple of easter eggs stuck to either
side
> > of the fenders. There are some LED after markets that look better but
need
> > additional wiring to make up for the change in voltage/current draw of
> > LED's. So my choices would be close to the example of paying 50% more
for
> > the aftermarket, but that's it pay a buck to get the same thing or a
buck
> > and a half for something you like better.
> >
> > Not likely to buy the after markets as long as the stock ones work but
if I
> > need to replace, I am then willing to pay the extra half to get
something I
> > think is better.
> >
> > The same could be said for most replacements, tires, pipes,what ever
else
> > needs to get replaced.
> >
> > At $60+ for stock your stories will be how it sucks that it cost you
that
> > much to fix something that wasn't your fault, an unlucky bad bulb. If
you
> > had seen something that you liked better and it cost $30 more your story
> > changes to how for only $30 more you got something you liked. It still
cost
> > you, it is just a better story.
>
> Heh. I'm a low bucks rider and always have been.
>
> As for what started the problem in the first place, the easy fix for it
> would be to eschew front running lights altogether OR to use two
> separate bulbs somehow, one for a running light and the other for a
blinker.
>
> A retired trucker friend of mine told me that the problem I had is real
> common with long haul trucks and that this is why so many of them use
> LEDs nowadays.
>
> --
> John Corliss BS206

Wondering why long haul trucks have the same problem?? 1157's and new
variations are common in cars and I don't know of that being a common
problem with cars, so what does a Vic and a long haul truck have in common
with each other??? I'm guessing that you know as little about that as I do
but with the additional knowledge of having to have gone through it
yourself.

grdøg wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> grdøg wrote:
>>> (big snip)
>>>
>>> I didn't figure that an after market would be easier/cheaper, just that
> it
>>> would allow me to tell stories of how I spent $150 for these cool
> looking
>>> do/dads instead of $100 for the same thing, in my mind a much better
> telling
>>> than I spent $150 to replace something that worked perfectly fine.
>>>
>>> The stock KP flashers look like a couple of easter eggs stuck to either
> side
>>> of the fenders. There are some LED after markets that look better but
> need
>>> additional wiring to make up for the change in voltage/current draw of
>>> LED's. So my choices would be close to the example of paying 50% more
> for
>>> the aftermarket, but that's it pay a buck to get the same thing or a
> buck
>>> and a half for something you like better.
>>>
>>> Not likely to buy the after markets as long as the stock ones work but
> if I
>>> need to replace, I am then willing to pay the extra half to get
> something I
>>> think is better.
>>>
>>> The same could be said for most replacements, tires, pipes,what ever
> else
>>> needs to get replaced.
>>>
>>> At $60+ for stock your stories will be how it sucks that it cost you
> that
>>> much to fix something that wasn't your fault, an unlucky bad bulb. If
> you
>>> had seen something that you liked better and it cost $30 more your story
>>> changes to how for only $30 more you got something you liked. It still
> cost
>>> you, it is just a better story.
>> Heh. I'm a low bucks rider and always have been.
>>
>> As for what started the problem in the first place, the easy fix for it
>> would be to eschew front running lights altogether OR to use two
>> separate bulbs somehow, one for a running light and the other for a
> blinker.
>> A retired trucker friend of mine told me that the problem I had is real
>> common with long haul trucks and that this is why so many of them use
>> LEDs nowadays.
>>
>> --
>> John Corliss BS206
>
> Wondering why long haul trucks have the same problem?? 1157's and new
> variations are common in cars and I don't know of that being a common
> problem with cars, so what does a Vic and a long haul truck have in common
> with each other??? I'm guessing that you know as little about that as I do
> but with the additional knowledge of having to have gone through it
> yourself.

Probably has something to do with the angle the 1157 bulb is held in
place. That is, at certain angles the running (outermost) filament is
more likely to fall upon and short out the blinker filament. Either that
or else long haulers have solid state blinker modules like Victories and
most cars don't.

I dunno.


--
John Corliss BS206

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:13at1ck762os1e5@corp.supernews.com...
> grdøg wrote:
> > "John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:13artbt6o5u494d@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Probably has something to do with the angle the 1157 bulb is held in
> >> place. That is, at certain angles the running (outermost) filament is
> >> more likely to fall upon and short out the blinker filament. Either
that
> >> or else long haulers have solid state blinker modules like Victories
and
> >> most cars don't.
> >>
> >> I dunno.
> >
> > Seems like it is a problem with a simple correction, install the bulb
socket
> > so that the running filament is on the bottom and cannot fall on the
other.
> > This is the first I have heard of such a problem, guess I am living a
> > sheltered life.....
>
> I think you're right. It's a simple matter to unscrew the bulb holder
> and turn it over.
>
> I was repairing it in the heat, on a slope and with very limited space.
> For some reason, that idea of yours never occurred to me.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> John Corliss BS206

Yep, I'm good at giving simple useful advise when it is way to late to help.
just think of the time and hassle I would have saved you if I gave that
advise last month.....(-;

grdøg wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> grdøg wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Probably has something to do with the angle the 1157 bulb is held in
>>>> place. That is, at certain angles the running (outermost) filament is
>>>> more likely to fall upon and short out the blinker filament. Either
>>>> that or else long haulers have solid state blinker modules like
>>>> Victories and most cars don't.
>>>>
>>>> I dunno.
>>>
>>> Seems like it is a problem with a simple correction, install the bulb
>>> socket so that the running filament is on the bottom and cannot fall
>>> on the other.
>>> This is the first I have heard of such a problem, guess I am living a
>>> sheltered life.....
>>
>> I think you're right. It's a simple matter to unscrew the bulb holder
>> and turn it over.
>>
>> I was repairing it in the heat, on a slope and with very limited space.
>> For some reason, that idea of yours never occurred to me.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Yep, I'm good at giving simple useful advise when it is way to late to help.

Not at all. It might happen again if I don't follow your advice. OTOH,
read below.

> just think of the time and hassle I would have saved you if I gave that
> advise last month.....(-;

Who can predict the future? Besides, the bulb holder was bouncing around
inside the blinker housing. The two posts you screw the bulb holder into
(cheap plastic SOBs) had broken off most likely because of the wreck the
previous owner had.

--
John Corliss BS206