Lest We Forget

> Have you never heard of the Land War laws and the Geneva Convention?
>
> They give occupying armies the authority to use armed force against
> civilian populations that offer armed opposition.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war

Justfy this... Germany and Japan's practice of
rounding up civilians in villages and slaughtering
them to get at the civilians that offered armed opposition.

Or maybe this would be easier to justify... the wholesale
slaughter of POWs (remember Wake Island).

Or maybe it's easier to justify this instead, the systematic
elimination of entire populations of civilians regardless of
whether or not they offered armed resistance.

Greg

On Nov 12, 9:53 am, oasysco <wilderkom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Have you never heard of the Land War laws and the Geneva Convention?
>
> > They give occupying armies the authority to use armed force against
> > civilian populations that offer armed opposition.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war
>
> Justfy this... Germany and Japan's practice of
> rounding up civilians in villages and slaughtering
> them to get at the civilians that offered armed opposition.
>
> Or maybe this would be easier to justify... the wholesale
> slaughter of POWs (remember Wake Island).
>
> Or maybe it's easier to justify this instead, the systematic
> elimination of entire populations of civilians regardless of
> whether or not they offered armed resistance.
>
> Greg

Forgot to add... it is these and other atrocities that kept the Axis
from ever triumphing no matter how many situations you wish might have
gone the other way. While madmen may wreak havoc for a short time,
good men will eventually put an end to it.

Greg

"Calgary" <actual.rider_remove_the_obvious_@telus.net> wrote in message
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>
> In 1918, on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day in the eleventh
> month, the world rejoiced and celebrated.
>
> After four years of bitter war, an armistice was signed.
>
> The "war to end all wars" was over.
>
> Please take a couple of minutes to remember the brave men and women
> who have sacrificed their lives to protect ours.
>
> http://www.actualriders.ca/lest_we_forget.htm

"Lest we forget" There are those who have "actually" served.. There are
those who have "actually" been a part of our history in contributing to the
life in a free world.. There are the ones who've not been privileged to
"serve", but have contributed by participating in respecting the ones who
did serve.. They've advocated for veterans' by petitioning for enhanced
benefits..

Usenet lip service to our Veterans is considered by many, as an insult to
their real service.. considering, of course.. the source..
>
>
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On Nov 11, 7:35 pm, B-P <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hitler was vilified for all eternity as the "mastermind" of the
> Third Reich because he was the spokesman for a nation's dream of
> carving out a secure place in the world to raise their children.

It's not surprising that you would actually believe that that is why
Hitler is accurately remembered the way he is.

On Nov 12, 11:28 am, "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Calgary" <actual.rider_remove_the_obvio...@telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:v45dj3tup0iijck8tem056em5ria68ogr2@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > In 1918, on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day in the eleventh
> > month, the world rejoiced and celebrated.
>
> > After four years of bitter war, an armistice was signed.
>
> > The "war to end all wars" was over.
>
> > Please take a couple of minutes to remember the brave men and women
> > who have sacrificed their lives to protect ours.
>
> >http://www.actualriders.ca/lest_we_forget.htm
>
> "Lest we forget" There are those who have "actually" served.. There are
> those who have "actually" been a part of our history in contributing to the
> life in a free world.. There are the ones who've not been privileged to
> "serve", but have contributed by participating in respecting the ones who
> did serve.. They've advocated for veterans' by petitioning for enhanced
> benefits..
>
> Usenet lip service to our Veterans is considered by many, as an insult to
> their real service.. considering, of course.. the source..

Real classy, Sheriff, trashing someone offering a tribute to veterans
on Veteran's Day.

Not surprising, though, considering, of course, the source.

oasysco wrote:
> On Nov 12, 9:53 am, oasysco <wilderkom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Have you never heard of the Land War laws and the Geneva
>>> Convention?
>>
>>> They give occupying armies the authority to use armed force
>>> against
>>> civilian populations that offer armed opposition.
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war
>>
>> Justfy this... Germany and Japan's practice of
>> rounding up civilians in villages and slaughtering
>> them to get at the civilians that offered armed opposition.
>>
>> Or maybe this would be easier to justify... the wholesale
>> slaughter of POWs (remember Wake Island).
>>
>> Or maybe it's easier to justify this instead, the systematic
>> elimination of entire populations of civilians regardless of
>> whether or not they offered armed resistance.
>>
>> Greg
>
> Forgot to add... it is these and other atrocities that kept the Axis
> from ever triumphing no matter how many situations you wish might
> have
> gone the other way. While madmen may wreak havoc for a short time,
> good men will eventually put an end to it.

You mean like Rome did to the Vandals?

It's nice to believe that the good guys always triumph in the end, but
the truth is that the winner generally decrees himself to be "the good
guy" no matter how nasty he may be by our standards.

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Road Glidin' Don wrote:

>So... did the Jewish propaganda machine also fabricate the holocaust,
>Krusty?

Yes, JewVision and Hollyweird have fabricated details of "holocaust" to a
great extent, in the interest of ma$$ive profits.

Some Jews who are critical of other Jews for making a buck off of the
"holocaust" call it "shoah business".

There was a time when the Jews were so heavy into "shoah business" I couldn't
watch Public TV at dinner time because they were always showing bulldozers
pushing emaciated skeltons into mass graves.

As if I hadn't seen pictures of *that* ever since I could read a book. And,
the Jews keep trotting it out again and again, as they seek more reparations
from the Germans.

To even begin to understand the "holocaust" you have to know what the word
means.

"Holocaust" means "burnt offering". Somebody of *your* tribe, perhaps a
priest, has to make the burnt offering, an enemy who doesn't believe in burnt
offerings
wouldn't make a Jew into a burnt offering.

The Nordic and Germanic peoples didn't do burnt offerings, they *hung* their
sacrifices from a tree with ropes.

There was a great ash tree called "Yggdrassil" outside the heathen temple at
Uppsala where my ancestor Yngve was king of Sweden 2000 years ago. They used
to hang horses and sheep and even several men at a time from the branches of
that ash tree.

The ancient Hebrews practiced blood sacrifice to heathen gods, up until the
time of Abraham. He was ready to make Isaac into a human sacrifice and burn
him at the altar until he thought, "Oy ve, maybe this meshuggineh god will
accept a goat instead?"

So the Hebrews started sacrificing animals like goats and lambs and doves,
draining their blood thoroughly before cooking them in honor of the gods.

The animal's throat had to be cut with a "perfect blade" without nicks, so
the blood could be drained. Blood is "unclean" according to Torah.

Then it was OK for the priests to eat the burnt offering afterwards. Why
should all that roast lamb go to waste? Archaeologists excavating around
Herod's temple have found the blood channels leading away from the altar and
have found tons of lamb
rib bones.

Such a barbecue, you wouldn't believe it, Hymie!

The Jews believe that they are "God's chosen people" and that they must
suffer to prove their faith in God. Jewish fiction of the Middle Ages is full
of stories of how Jews suffered for their faith.

Jews love to tell of Masada, where Jewish criminals killed their wives and
children and then committed suicide, rather than surrender to Roman law.

Jews also killed their families and committed suicide at Mainz, in Germany,
rather than surrender to crusaders outside the ghetto.

What is sick about the Jews of Mainz is the description of the "perfect blade,
without nicks" that Jewish parents used to cut their children's throats, just
as if they were lambs at a holocaust.

Strange tales came out of the Jews who escaped from the Warsaw ghetto in 1942.
One Jew claimed that the Germans were boiling them alive.

He talked to supreme court justice Frankfurter, who was a Jew. Frankfurter
told him, "I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'm saying I *can't* believe
you."

What was up with that? Politics prevented a supreme court justice from taking
official notice of genocide?

In 1942, the US government couldn't do anything for the Jews in Europe anyway.


Three years later, when the bedraggled remnants of the Wehrmacht surrendered
to the Allies, the Russians marched them off to concentration camps, and
Eisenhower
refused to give food and shelter to the German POW's.

Truman refused to supply food to the German people. Millions of Germans
starved to death in the winter of 1945/46.

You can read Hermann Goering's testimony before the Nuremberg War Crimes
Tribunal. Goering said that the Germans would have fed the Jews at Auschwitz
if the
Allies hadn't bombed the railroads leading to the labor camp and the
factories nearby.

Many Jews died in the camps because of epidemics like typhus.

Why were the Jews in the labor camps? They were illegal aliens, being
deported outside the borders of the Third Reich.

The strange thing was, the Third Reich kept growing, it was getting bigger as
the Wehrmacht conquered more territory, so the Jews had to be deported
further and further east.

Why should it bother the illegal alien Jews to be loaded on a train and sent
east? They came from the east, didn't they?

During the 1930's Great Britain had a policy that required immigrants to pay
abour $40,000 USD to enter their country.

Hitler commented that if Germany had policy like that around 1900, German
would not have an illegal alien Jewish problem. Of the six million Jews who
supposedly died in the "holocaust" only 10% were German Jews whose ancestors
had been in the country for generations.

And, of course, one *huge* benefit of the "holocaust" was that it seemed to
point to the moral evidence of the Jews demands for a homeland in Palestine.

Everybody knows that European Jews took Palestine away from the people who
already lived there by force, and that President Truman recognized the bandit
nation.

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:30:51 GMT, "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com"
<u33665@uwe> wrote:

>Road Glidin' Don wrote:
>
>>So... did the Jewish propaganda machine also fabricate the holocaust,
>>Krusty?
>
>Yes, JewVision and Hollyweird have fabricated details of "holocaust" to a
>great extent, in the interest of ma$$ive profits.
>
>Some Jews who are critical of other Jews for making a buck off of the
>"holocaust" call it "shoah business".
>
>There was a time when the Jews were so heavy into "shoah business" I couldn't
>watch Public TV at dinner time because they were always showing bulldozers
>pushing emaciated skeltons into mass graves.
>
>As if I hadn't seen pictures of *that* ever since I could read a book. And,
>the Jews keep trotting it out again and again, as they seek more reparations
>from the Germans.
>
>To even begin to understand the "holocaust" you have to know what the word
>means.

No, I don't. I know what Nazi Germany did, put whatever label
you like on it. 'Slaughter of innocents' would work, for starters.

I've seen pictures my father took personally at the camps ( I
forget if it was Auschwitz or Dachau or whichever - they were all the
same ) when he was in one of the first medical teams to enter them
after they were liberated.

They are exactly like the ones you see in books and museums
and on TV. The piles of bodies, the emaciated naked prisoners, the
whole nine yards. This is what he personally saw as he walked in the
front gates.

What label you put on it does not change its nature nor its
reality. It HAPPENED, it was REAL. THAT is all that matters.





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tomorrow@erols.com wrote:
> On Nov 11, 7:35 pm, B-P <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hitler was vilified for all eternity as the "mastermind" of the
>> Third Reich because he was the spokesman for a nation's dream of
>> carving out a secure place in the world to raise their children.
>
> It's not surprising that you would actually believe that that is why
> Hitler is accurately remembered the way he is.

Personally I think that the most important thing to remember about
Hitler is not how nasty his regime was, but how slickly he sold it.

"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are full
of students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy
our country. Russia is threatening us with her might and the Republic
is in danger. Yes, danger from within and without. We need law and
order. Without law and order our nation cannot survive. Elect us and
we shall restore law and order."

Sound familiar? Wanna guess who said it?

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<tomorrow@erols.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 12, 11:28 am, "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Calgary" <actual.rider_remove_the_obvio...@telus.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:v45dj3tup0iijck8tem056em5ria68ogr2@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > In 1918, on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day in the eleventh
>> > month, the world rejoiced and celebrated.
>>
>> > After four years of bitter war, an armistice was signed.
>>
>> > The "war to end all wars" was over.
>>
>> > Please take a couple of minutes to remember the brave men and women
>> > who have sacrificed their lives to protect ours.
>>
>> >http://www.actualriders.ca/lest_we_forget.htm
>>
>> "Lest we forget" There are those who have "actually" served.. There are
>> those who have "actually" been a part of our history in contributing to
>> the
>> life in a free world.. There are the ones who've not been privileged to
>> "serve", but have contributed by participating in respecting the ones who
>> did serve.. They've advocated for veterans' by petitioning for enhanced
>> benefits..
>>
>> Usenet lip service to our Veterans is considered by many, as an insult to
>> their real service.. considering, of course.. the source..
>
> Real classy, Sheriff, trashing someone offering a tribute to veterans
> on Veteran's Day.
>
> Not surprising, though, considering, of course, the source.

Also "not surprising" is your response .. Goes hand in hand with my
offense towards Don Binns.. Neither of you two pricks are qualified
to solicit tribute to the real veterans who've made the sacrifices to
enable you to post your usenet bullshit openly..

"Tribute" where it counts, you hypocritical son of a bitch.. Go walk
the wards of your nearest VA hospital.. do something real.. not spout
usenet lipservice on a silly assed newsgroup..
>